by Dodo Charles
Transsexual- a
person who emotionally and psychologically feels that they belong to the
opposite sex.
Ola Satchell, speaking to PGS pupils and staff |
On
Friday, PGS was graced with the arrival of Ola Satchell, who came to give a talk
to PGS Pride on her journey to becoming a woman. The talk was both sickening
and hilarious, as Ola, now doing some stand-up comedy, recounted her
experiences with the general public and their death threats. A Yr 12 IB philosophy
class was also lucky enough to be able to talk to her in a lesson, discussing
gender identity, the costs of treatment and the flawed health system, and
issues with jobs for trans people.
I
was fortunate enough to be able to interview Ola before the talk she gave, and
for such a heavy topic, she managed to capture a humorous tone whilst
simultaneously showing the gravity of the subject matter.
Dodo
Charles: What age was it that you first realised that you were uncomfortable
with your body? How did you feel about it?
Ola
Satchell: Three. Its difficult to say what I felt, because when I was three was
so long ago: there was no internet, homosexuality was still illegal, JFK was
still alive, and England hadn’t won the World Cup. I came from a naval family,
and the whole circumstances were so radically different to what they are today,
I didn’t know what to do, I couldn’t say anything to my parents. I was
wondering how to express this, because there were no role models or anything.
As far as I knew, and as far as I knew up until the age of 13-15, I had no idea
that there was anyone else like me. I just thought there was something
seriously wrong with me. I just asked: Why me? This isn’t normal. I just had to
learn to live with it.
DC: You mentioned in your personal history that you were
bullied quite a lot at school. If you could, would you go back and change
anything about your school life or life?
OS:
What would I have done? The closest thing I have to any kind of regret I
suppose was not doing this sooner. The irony of it all was that before (Charing
Cross) I was shy, I was indecisive, and very self-destructive. I would have
come out sooner, because, once I’m honest with myself, everything’s easy, no
matter how much life itself becomes difficult. Although the first twenty months
of my transitioning were difficult, I wouldn’t change it. I just think that I
could have been like this sooner, and that is what I regret.
DC: How
do you deal with the hatred and abuse that is still thrown at you on a constant
basis?
OS:
It depends on the circumstances on which it occurs. Things on the Gosport ferry
I didn’t do anything about other than make a mental note of it to use in my
training. I tend to make light of a lot of things, because people tend to be
much more uncertain of how to deal with it, if someone makes a joke about it.
So, for example, I don’t know what it is about the frozen veg isle in Sainsburys,
but its on more than one occasion that I’ve been accosted there by people
wanting to know more about my genitals, or someone coming up to me and asking
if I’m a man. You can either be fairly blunt and tell them that it's none of
there business, but the trouble is you run the risk of assigning people into
even more degrees of unpleasantness. It doesn’t affect me, it doesn’t worry me,
and so my concern is that we both come out of this situation without having
gotten any further. I feel sorry for them, because one, those shouting abuse
have probably given themselves laryngitis and he’s got nothing out of it at
all.
DC: How
do you think we should deal with people my age and younger, searching on the
internet transgender or transsexual, and finding articles that suggest it is a
bad thing - you mention Dr. Paul McHugh’s article? Should we be making it so
that organisations similar to Stonewall, but for trans people come at the top
of the search engine?
OS:
Well Stonewall’s quite interesting because traditionally its always been LGB,
but now they have a new Chief Executor, and I’m working quite closely with
them on training days. The problem is that when you type transsexual into the
internet you get 27 million responses in under 0.37 seconds, and you get all
sorts of responses, some arguing that I’m a sin. But McHugh’s article was very
disingenuous in the fact that he didn’t reveal some facts about himself that he
should have done, such as the fact that he is tied up with the Catholic Church.
The other problem is that some of the stuff is misleading about trans people
committing suicide. Trans people commit suicide because of the way they are
treated, not because they are trans. The first thing Charing Cross said to me
when I went there was: How are you going to cope with losing your life, losing
your family, losing your friends and losing your job? Which kind of makes you
think that this doesn’t bode too well. The problem is that the people who wield
the power are the people who deny I even exist.
DC: Do
you think that society’s attitude towards Trans people is changing, and is
becoming more optimistic?
OS:
Yes. Yes, it’s changing in a positive way, but its still kind of transitioning.
At a Christmas do recently, unsurprisingly I was the only sort of trans person
there, and it was fine, and everyone was really kind of pleasant, but you got
to the end of the evening, and everyone is saying goodnight, and all the women
were getting kissed goodnight, and they shook my hand. You couldn’t have been
more obvious! It was that little thing, I don’t think about it any more, and
that was really jarring for me, because they were doing everything on their
terms, not mine.
DC: What
is it that we can do to help society become more accepting?
OS:
It's back to education really. Most people tend to try and make (changing
viewpoints) into a crusade, which is humourless and single-minded, which I
can’t stand, and I can’t stand people who are humourless, especially people
like bank managers (she later recounts a story about her bank manager not
laughing at jokes about her changing which hand she writes with.) That’s not
going to make anyone convert or listen to you, this in-your-face approach of
people screaming at you. The way to make
it work is to show people positive images and have people like me go out and
talk to people about it, showing that we are okay, we’re not going to suddenly
eat children or commit small acts of horror.
As a
society, we need to become more aware of trans people, and more accepting. PGS
Pride runs fortnightly on a Friday, speak to Mrs. Morgan if you want to find
out more- there is cake, and fascinating people like Ola, who give up their
free time to come and talk and educate us.
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