tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6247050185364541007.post761089344293174758..comments2024-03-21T18:02:46.110+00:00Comments on PORTSMOUTH POINT: Why, Although Daniel Vettori Is Awesome, All Left-arm Leg Spinners Are BoringJ. Burkinshawhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07521961323780567072noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6247050185364541007.post-779320418903609212013-03-20T09:34:19.054+00:002013-03-20T09:34:19.054+00:00That 50p challenge was amazing! No mortal could ev...That 50p challenge was amazing! No mortal could ever do that!Alex Cummingsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6247050185364541007.post-60869629516379223672013-02-08T08:14:17.055+00:002013-02-08T08:14:17.055+00:00Tim, please take a look at the link below. I apolo...Tim, please take a look at the link below. I apologise for using wikipedia as my source but thats probably the best I could find at the moment/. Left-arm chinamana is a left-arm leg spinner rather than an off-spinner. When speaking about left-arm spinners, we must look at it from the perspective of left-hand batsmen. Left-arm chinaman bowlers are left-arm unorthodox bowlers, who turn the ball away from left-handers and into right-handers.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-arm_unorthodox_spinAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08950793598935850058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6247050185364541007.post-38642415344431570212013-01-23T18:43:23.615+00:002013-01-23T18:43:23.615+00:00Thank you, I shall do some further research on the...Thank you, I shall do some further research on them; I know the names from Amol Rajan's book, but not well enough to think about them properly.<br /><br />What a wonderful coincidence! I may well try and find out a little more about it...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10884828164650577793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6247050185364541007.post-58602384490443103782013-01-23T18:40:33.687+00:002013-01-23T18:40:33.687+00:00Thank you for your interesting and well balanced c...Thank you for your interesting and well balanced comments. If I may just respond, the term 'chinaman' refers to left-arm OFF spin, rather than leg, which I am fascinated by and would love to see more of.<br />My point about the right-handed batsmen was, I admit, a generalisation, and I agree that the off spinner has the same advantage against the left-handed batsman as the left-arm leg spinner.<br />Finally, I do not dispute the very the left-arm leg spinners are very effective; I just prefer others. I for one was ecstatic when Panesar was selected for the Second Test in India - it finally showed that the selectors has finally learnt something.<br />If you wish, do find me at school if you want to discuss this further; it would be wonderful to get someone else's point of view.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10884828164650577793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6247050185364541007.post-65793055742888621402013-01-20T15:39:03.124+00:002013-01-20T15:39:03.124+00:00Excellent point. Hedley Verity is a great example ...Excellent point. Hedley Verity is a great example of classic left arm spinners.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08950793598935850058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6247050185364541007.post-55403622250745385602013-01-20T13:30:23.097+00:002013-01-20T13:30:23.097+00:00Interesting left-armers? Try a couple of Yorkshire...Interesting left-armers? Try a couple of Yorkshiremen, Wilfred Rhodes and Hedley Verity. The latter was killed in the 2nd World War - who knows how great he might have been. Closer to home only seven men have taken 1,000 first class wickets for Hampshire in this their 150th year (and no one will ever achieve that again). Two were slow left armers: Stuart Boyes and Peter Sainsbury. Doesn't necessarily "prove" anything of course but ...<br /><br />Incidentally Amol Rajan will be at Hampshire's Ageas Bowl on the evening of Weds 6 Feb talking to Hampshire Cricket Society about his book which you mentioned, "The Twirly Men"<br /><br />Dave AllenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6247050185364541007.post-40581983846672528652013-01-18T21:55:16.955+00:002013-01-18T21:55:16.955+00:00I must say, this is an interesting article, and be...I must say, this is an interesting article, and being a cricket lover myself, I was intrigued by the title and had to read it.<br />I don't disagree with most of what you're saying and rather surprisingly, find myself agreeing to some of your points (especially the one about the loopy action, though that is because of having to bowl from around the wicket most of the time). However, I do not think that any certain aspect of the game, especially in bowling, can be termed "boring".<br />It is true that statistically the top spinners in the world are right armers, but that does not take anything away from the beauty of left-arm spin. Since batsmen are predominantly right-handed, left arm spinners are usually forced to come around the wicket to get the angle right, hence the loopy action. If a right-arm spinner had to bowl mostly from around the wicket, the case would've have been the same.<br />Left arm spin is a dying art in cricket, especially the form of left arm leg-spin (or chinaman bowling). Yes, there are plenty in the subcontinent as can be seen in the IPL, but none of them exceptional in their field. Therefore, left arm spin bowling should be encouraged worldwide to revive the art, especially the form of Chinaman bowling, which I had last seen only Australian cricketer Brad Hogg bowl.<br />Your point about the ball leaving the right handers and off-spinners having to work more than left armers is quite peculiar. If a right arm off-spinner were to bowl to a left handed batsman, the result would be the same. From what you're saying, right arm leg-spinners would get the same advantage over off-spinners, which is not always the case.<br />So, despite there not being too many left arm spinners in the all time top wicket-takers list,it is by no means "boring". In more recent times, the England team have come to realise this. When they played Pakistan in Abu Dhabi, their massive downfall was mostly because of spin bowling, and left arm spinner Abdul Rehmann. Left arm spin hasn't always just caused England problems but worked in their favour as well. As we saw in the recent Test series in India, England's left arm spinner Monty Panesar played a key role in England's victory over the hosts and took nearly half of the Indian wickets to fall in the matches that he played in.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08950793598935850058noreply@blogger.com